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How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail

A little over six months ago I started using GMail, Google's popular email service.  (I have some invites, btw, if you have not yet received one and are interested; if so, drop me a line...)  I still use Outlook for my personal and business-related emailing, contact management, scheduling, etc., but I've since moved over all of my ListServ email to GMail.  GMail is great for such activity (ListServs) because of its:

  • Large disk quota.  Even after six months of relatively heavy ListServ traffic my GMail size has reached only 119 MB, or 12% of the gigabyte GMail provides.
  • Grouping messages in a thread view.  I never liked using Outlook for ListServs because of the fragmented message stream that continuously poured into my Inbox.  Yes, I had incoming message automatically filtered into Folders, but I might get an email on one list from Person X about Topic Y, then the next email, chronologically, might be from Person Z on Topic A.  Then the next one on Person B on Topic Y, and so forth.  Basically it was hard to follow a thread.  (Yes, I know that Outlook let's you group messages by Subject, but I found more often than not it would leave out messages or misorder them, due likely to mail clients or SMTP/POP servers that tweaked with the subject line.)

    GMail's grouping of messages in threads does break every now and then, as I suspect some clients leave out the Thread-Index SMTP header that GMail (I believe) uses to group threads.  But for the most part, the threading is done very well, in an easy to use Web-based interface.
  • Searching is fast, thorough, and accurate.  Searching email in GMail is as easy and powerful as searcing the Web through Google.  No surprise here, but compare this to Outlook's default search which is SLOOOOOW.  (For my Outlook searching I use Lookout, although Google Desktop Search and other technologies provide similarly fast searching of email and other contents.)

I found that with GMail I was able to subscribe and manage many more ListServs than with Outlook, for the reasons mentioned above.  I wish Google could do the same for USENET; yes, the have Google Groups, but the USENET posts are delayed by several hours.

posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:36 PM

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# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 1/18/2005 2:13 PM Terri Morton

Scott, you had given this advice on a private forum a while ago and within the past few weeks I followed it. Awesome idea!! It is working out so well for me, too. Besides all of the features you mentioned above, my list messages are now easily accessible to me anywhere I have internet access. And GMail also has the "personal level indicators" which will automatically point out when a message is sent directly to me and also only to me (ie "offlist"). I'd never use GMail for personal private email (see the recent "Gmail Messages are vulnerable to Interception" http://dump.hbx.us/gmail_bug_hack/), but it's awesome for ListServs.

# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 1/18/2005 2:39 PM Brian Muirhead

I have a few Gmail invites left, too. If you give all of yours away, have people email me at bmuirhead <at> gmail.com and I'll give them one of mine.

# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 1/28/2005 8:59 PM Mikeb Singer

Adding to the list:
- Mail redirection. Use intermediate Gmail account between ListServs and your main account. You can just switch it off when ListServ matters are getting bad.

# Using Email as a Knowledge Base 4/25/2005 9:42 PM Scott on Writing

# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 5/18/2005 8:51 AM Keith Free Ellis

Has anybody tried the new Enterprise version?

# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 5/20/2005 2:52 AM outlook express errors

I have been using Outlook Express errors repair tool for the past few months and LOVE it.
I've even recommended it to all my friends. Outlook Express more stable and secure than other programs.

# re: How to Manage ListServs - Use GMail 5/20/2005 2:54 AM Outlook Express fix

I must admit to being more impressed with Tool for Outlook Express fix. I've even recommended it to all my friends.

# Another Great Use for GMail 10/14/2005 5:13 PM Scott on Writing

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