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The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Are RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight?

There are a number of popular offline aggregators available.  By 'offline' I mean that these aggregators can be used while not connected to the Internet.  For example, my aggregator of choice is RssBandit, which is an offline aggregator.  There's also the likes of FeedDemon, SharpReader, and a whole slew of other choices.  But what does the future hold for such offline aggregators?

The future of aggregators, in my opinion, are those that are either online - My Yahoo!, BlogLines, Start.com, Google's personalized homepage, Findory, Rojo, and so on - or are part of the experience of existing 'everyman' applications (i.e., email or web browsing) and, preferrably, are preinstalled with the software.  The online aggregators seem to make a lot more sense, having a number of advantages of their offline kin:

  • Not bound to a particular computer -  I can be at home, at the office, or on vacation - my subscriptions travel with me.
  • Can utilize the 'social network' - services like Findory make it easy for me to get recommended news and blog items based on my clickthroughs.  Services like del.icio.us allow me to share my online habits/sites/subscriptions with others with like interests.  I can see what the most popular feeds are, or explore the subscriptions of those whose interests match mine.
  • Easier to 'install' and 'uninstall' - want to install My Yahoo! on your computer?  Fire up the ol' browser and enter http://my.yahoo.com - couldn't be easier.  And uninstalling's as easy as not visiting the site again.
  • No resource consumption - doesn't matter if I subscribe to one feed or a hundred - the disk space and bandwidth consumed on my computer stay constant when using an online service.

Of course the major disadvantage for online aggregators is that they require the user to be online.  While broadband is becoming more ubiquitous, it's not universal, so those who can only get online in bursts, will, obviously, enjoy offline aggregators, as they can download the content while online and the peruse offline.  (Similar to the benefits of USENET over online forums.)  But these third-party aggregators are going to be crowded out of the marketplace once this feature becomes standard in email/news clients.  When Outlook Express makes it a cinch to subscribe to RSS feeds and view the feeds offline, what point is there for SharpReader or any other offline reader?

Granted, these third-party apps can provide new features with a much quicker release schedule than Microsoft or any other large software company, but who's going to use them other than just a fringe population of super-geeks?  I like RssBandit.  I still use RssBandit.  But I have a hard time seeing RssBandit (or any other offline aggregators) having much relevance in the aggregator space in the near future.  I'm honestly close to just switching over permanently to online aggregators.

Am I mistaken here?  There are some applications that are better suited for the web, some that are better suited for the desktop, and some that have their place both on the web and on the desktop.  I think the only place aggregators have on the desktop is for offline access, and I don't see space for offline players outside of, perhaps, an offering from Microsoft and an offering from one other competitor.  I mean, how many people do you know that don't use a Microsoft product for offline email access?  I wish the best for today's third-party aggregators, but can't see many (if any) of them having any sort of non-trivial install base a few years out.

posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:58 PM

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# Overgearet sikkerhed 10/6/2005 12:24 AM Jesper Jensens Weblog

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 12:40 AM Lee

I much prefer desktop readers over their online brethren. I like the fact that i can get alerts when a new feed item is published and i also like the responsiveness. Sure it takes up some resources on the computer but i've got plenty. I think when Vista is released with its all singing and dancing support for feeds then the traditional readers will be in big trouble. Some will fall into obscurity but others will grow stronger and offer better features, The one big feature I want is syncronisation...

# Overgearet sikkerhed 10/6/2005 1:35 AM Jesper Jensens Weblog

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 7:44 AM Adam

I agree with Lee.

I'd much rather my RSS feeds come to me. I don't want to have to go to a web browser and actively look to see if my 50 feeds have anything new. Most of the time, they don't.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 7:50 AM Scott Mitchell

Adam/Lee: What if you were notified of new feeds, perhaps via email, perhaps via IM, perhaps by some little widget downloaded from the aggregator website?

My thinking centers around the 'average' user. What's going to prompt them to download an aggregator when there's online flavors and built-in support in their 'everyday' apps or OS?

# Desktop vs Online Aggregators 10/6/2005 8:43 AM textBox1.Text

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 8:55 AM Adam

Email would be no good, I hate unwanted emails (and I would consider "you have [x] new feeds" unwanted.

IM would be all right, but I'd still be missing the ALT+TAB-ability to go into my aggregator (or I guess I'd have to keep an IE window open).

And a downloaded widget is the same as having an RSS aggregator running locally in my opinion. If I had to download something to run somewhere I would just use a desktop aggregator. I'd rather have a real application running. Same reason I only use Hotmial and Gmail as a last resort.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 8:59 AM Scott Mitchell

Adam, I agree that now there are some good arguments for a third-party, offline aggregator, but I think many of these 'pros' will evaporate as this support becomes more of a commodity and becomes integrated within the 'eveyman' apps and OS. That widget that you may need to download from a website now, will eventually be part of the OS.

# Forgot something... 10/6/2005 9:11 AM Tim Farley

One thing you didn't mention is the resource consumption issue at the content sites. Online aggregators help improve the scalability of the blogosphere as a whole.

This is because every RSS feed pull done by an aggregator benefits potentially hundreds of people -- people who don't have to directly pull that RSS from the original site. That can make a huge difference to a smaller site that has bandwidth constraints, who otherwise could get destroyed by their own success.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/6/2005 10:11 AM Adam

I never said I wouldn't use OS-based or integrated RSS apps. I just said I would never use an online service. Integrate that into Outlook for me (for free) or the OS (for free) and I'll use the hell out of it.

# The future of offline RssReader is beyond news read 10/6/2005 10:55 AM Russel Harvey

Offline Reader has a much big prospect than their web site or browser equivalent. Everything that is done on web site such as Blogline can be done in offline reader, just no one has dont' it yet. But offline reader can do more.

The biggest complaint about offline reader is synchronization, which is also the most benefit and motive people use web site to read Rss feed. Now why hasn't it been done in offline reader? I don't understand.

One problem of Rss feed is the bandwidth consumption. Suck all feed to a single point web site is simply wrong.

Reading feed in outlook? It will fit in the way how peopel read their Rss news today, but will that remain the same in two years? Don't count on Microsoft for vision.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/7/2005 2:00 PM Scott Mitchell

Hoobah, this [http://www.google.com/reader/] ought to make things interesting!

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/7/2005 2:59 PM Sean Chase

Scott, RSS Bandit is much nicer than Google Reader....so far. :-)

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/7/2005 3:02 PM Scott Mitchell

Agreed, Sean. I wrote that before even tinkering with Google Reader. It strikes me as one of Google's weaker Betas in recent memory, I can think of a number of enhancements... RssBandit is WAY better... but Google has a pretty good track record of making slick products, so I wouldn't be surprised to see this improved.

Plus, wait until there's a large enough user database to allow for some interesting personalization/searching/favorites/link sharing/etc./etc.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/11/2005 9:43 AM Abdu

I used RSS bandit and I don't like it anymore. I have to click to read each comment instead of scrolling down to go through all of them.

Also RSSBandit has a bug where I can't read comments from some Blogs (one I remember is one that used dasBlog). I reported this several times on RSSbandit's forum. Development on RSS bandit seems to be slow.

Sauce reader now says my beta version has expired and they are out of business. So no more Sauce reader. I liked it.

The one I use now is Omea. I configured it to make it look like Sauce reader. I am happy.

I don't like web based readers because they are slow. I also prefer stand alone readers than ones that integrate into Outlook. I have Outlook on all the time and I don't want to be distracted everytie I read email that I have new articles. I want to read blogs only when I fire off a reader.

And I don't want readers that try to do too much stuff. That's why I would like a way to turn off the extra tabs in Omea.

# RSS Aggregators, Online o offline? 10/11/2005 5:42 PM Simone Busoli Weblog

# RSS Aggregators, Online oppure Offline? 10/11/2005 5:47 PM Simone Busoli Weblog

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/13/2005 8:43 AM Ben Strackany

I agree with you, Scott. As connectivity becomes faster & ubiquitous, and online apps gain the same UI features & slickness (flex, sparkle (motion), flash, etc.) that offline apps do, the advantages of offline apps will IMO decrease.

But it's also fun to think about other advantages of a fully-online world. Perhaps there won't be local storage. Perhaps one's mp3 collection will be on a server somewhere, and your home terminal, home stereo, & car stereo will simply connect to & download the songs in cache for easy & contiguous listening.

Ofc nothing may pan out that way. But look at what Google maps has done to breathe new usability into online maps. Consider what other sites could do as it gets easier to assume most users have faster & faster connections.

# re: The Future of Third-Party Offline Aggregators? Is RssBandit and its Kin Dead Weight? 10/23/2005 1:17 PM Jimmy the Gent

Abdu said "And I don't want readers that try to do too much stuff. That's why I would like a way to turn off the extra tabs in Omea."
Go to the plugins section in the options, turn off the outlook, html, pdf, tasks - whatever plugins. Hey presto.

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