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# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/20/2005 11:47 AM hurcane

If you "redirect" a message instead of "forward" a message, you don't get the funny messages. That doesn't solve your problem of letting SpamBayes process the mail before Outlook redirects it, but now you know. :-)

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/20/2005 12:13 PM Scott Mitchell

hurcane, I don't see a redirect option in the Rules Wizard for Outlook 2003.

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/20/2005 8:17 PM James Walsh

I have my own domain, so I setup my email address as a group address, forwarding to my pop3 (outlook) account, and my gmail account. (This means spam still gets through, but Gmail filters most of it out).

I then added the below sub to the Outlook VBA (This Outlook Session). This will automatically add your gmail account to the BCC of every message you send. (You'll have to set Outlook's Macro security to "low").

As a side point, you can use gmail to check and reply to messages when you are away from Outlook. Just BCC the ones you send to your pop3 account.

Comments to: walshy(at)walshy(dot)net

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Private Sub Application_ItemSend(ByVal Item As Object, Cancel As Boolean)
Dim objRecip As Recipient
Dim strMsg As String
Dim res As Integer
Dim strBCC As String

' #### USER OPTIONS ####
' address for Bcc -- must be SMTP address or resolvable
' to a name in the address book
strBCC = "name@gmail.com"

On Error Resume Next
Set objRecip = Item.Recipients.Add(strBCC)
' handle case of user canceling Outlook security dialog
If Err = 287 Then
strMsg = "Could not add a Bcc recipient " & _
"because the user said No to the security prompt." & _
" Do you want still to send the message?"
res = MsgBox(strMsg, vbYesNo + vbDefaultButton1, _
"Security Prompt Cancelled")
If res = vbNo Then
Cancel = True
Else
objRecip.Delete
End If
Err.Clear
Else
objRecip.Type = olBCC
objRecip.Resolve
If Not objRecip.Resolved Then
strMsg = "Could not resolve the Bcc recipient. " & _
"Do you want still to send the message?"
res = MsgBox(strMsg, vbYesNo + vbDefaultButton1, _
"Could Not Resolve Bcc Recipient")
If res = vbNo Then
Cancel = True
End If
End If
End If

Set objRecip = Nothing
End Sub

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 5:58 AM Aaron Seet (icelava)

True that Google has done a good job indexing many a great "discussion" throughout the Internet, but there were times when I couldn't find an answer via Google and its extension of newsgroups and forums content, and instead found it directly in my personal cache of mailing list emails.

My sequence pattern is something like:
1. Google
2. Google groups
3. Own list emails (MSN Search for Outlook)

sometimes 2 and 3 are swapped.

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 8:34 AM Ivan V.

As hurcane says, why not redirect, at the server level. That's what I do, and after a while, Gmail has learned to classify most of the spam. Of the 2000+ spams I get on a month, barely 20 get to my inbox.

Just redirect your main address to your gmail one, and retrieve your mail from gmail. This way is more transparent, and has the added advantage that you don't need outlook open all the time. And since gmail marks all pop-retrieved e-mail as read and archived (there's an option), when you're not on your office you can use gmail and you'll know which messages are new.

Try it, I highly recommend it.

# Using GMail for all of your e-mail 10/21/2005 9:02 AM Giddy Up! - Erik Lane's Blog

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 10:07 AM Scott Mitchell

Ivan/hurcane, I don't know if I have that level of control at the mail server level. That is, I don't know if my ISP allows me to auto-forward mail, I'll have to look into it. It doesn't appear that WebHost4Life.com allows auto-forwarding...

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 11:01 AM Ivan V.

Scott, a quick check through your provider's hosting packages shows they do support e-mail forwarding even on their most basic package, so you're good to go!

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 12:45 PM Scott Mitchell

You're right Ivan, forwarding is supported. It's not configurable through the regular, online mail client, I had to login through the administrative interface. But sure enough, found it and now have all my mail except @4GuysFromRolla.com going through Gmail.

My next concern, which hopefully y'all can allay, is replying with the right email address. That is, I *had* four POP accounts coming into Outlook, and my email address when replying to an email would be based on the account the message came from. But now I just have two POP accounts (4Guys and GMail), even though GMail has three POP accounts forwarding to it. Problem is, when I reply from the GMail account in Outlook, I don't know how to make Outlook use the right email address...

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/21/2005 2:17 PM Ivan V.

I just quickly checked if you could achieve it using VBA (in Outlook), but it seems you can't. Tough luck.

Try Thunderbird. That's what I use (since I no longer need Outlook's PIM features). It does what you want.

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 10/22/2005 12:03 PM Erik Lane

Scott,

I have the same issue but in Outlook XP or 2003 (not sure which version) allows for selecting which email account to send the email through.

For my accounts that are being forwarded to GMail I still have them setup in Outlook but only "send" messages enabled...no recieving of messages.

# A Neat Idea and the RIGHT Implementation 10/23/2005 1:16 AM Scott on Writing

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 4/26/2006 6:42 AM Fred

I would like to know how to redirect messages from Outlook to Gmail. What exactly does one do to create this? I can't figure it out in Outlook.

# re: A Neat Idea, but a Poor Implementation 4/26/2006 7:13 AM Scott Mitchell

Fred, you can create an Outlook rule that automatically forwards all incoming email to a specified address. However, as I mentioned in this blog entry, it is less than ideal.

In any event, if you have questions about how to do particular things in Outlook, I've found that a GREAT place to ask is the Outlook USENET groups. Very helpful and smart folks there.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlook
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general

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